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joe biden, two has negotiated deals in the past, obviously, with mitch mcconnell, has seemed to move this forward. they're going to continue negotiating, even though there won't be any votes tonight. so let me ask you, what is your sense of what's going to happen here? are we going to avoid going over the fiscal cliff? >> i don't know. i think it's 50-50 as we go into the final hours here now. the fact that negotiations are ongoing is a good sign. i served on what was known as the biden group in the summer of 2011. unfortunately, at the end of the day, as you remember, the republicans walked out of those negotiations. why? for the same time they've abandoned all the negotiations so far, is they didn't want to ask high income individuals to share greater responsibility for reducing the deficit. they wanted to put that burden on the middle class. maybe in the final hours, something will change there. but it's important to understand that's exactly what's happening there. they're using the clock and the final hours and the threat of a slowing economy and higher taxes on middle income fo
, has said he has reached out to joe biden, the vice president, and not incidentally the president of the senate in that capacity. he has had a couple of conversations with him according to republican senators, one, just within the last hour, at least one, when mitch mcconnell left a closed door luncheon of republican senators to speak with joe biden by phone. we understand that joe biden, our crack white house team, put eyes on him going into the white house about 1:45 this afternoon. he was in delaware yesterday. seems unlikely at this point that biden would make the trip up to capitol hill for any face-to-face negotiations. democrats say this is simply a ruse, mitch mcconnell trying to go around harry reid, the democratic leader here and appealing to joe biden, trying to make it look in democratic estimation as if republicans are going the last mile, but, look, we're stuck. we're nowhere at this point. there was a major setback earlier. you mentioned it, the so-called chained cpi. a lot of people tweeted me and said what the heck is that? simply a revised way of adjusting cost o
. on the democratic side, vice president biden, secretary of state, hillary clinton, bennett, jerry brown, elizabeth warren, and angus king who is an independent but will caucus with the democratics on the republican side. marco rubio, mike pence, jeb bush, and soon to be former senator from south carolina jim demint. joining me now, our end of the year gaggle, crystal lizza, perry bacon, stephanie cutter was the deputy campaign manager for obama's campaign, and madden was a senior adviser for romney's campaign. hello. happy new year, although we asked all of you to pick, i threw out my dozen and i asked you to pick two you were going to feedback. we're not going to do the 2016 conversation now, but we'll do it in a few minutes. who are the few who jumped out at you? >> i'm a little nierdy, so i picked michael bennet, the colorado senator, because he's the head of the committee which means he's tasked with trying to again keep a democratic senate majority, going to be difficult. you have 20 democratic seats up, only 10 republican seats up. >> and he wants to be senate majority leader some day. >> th
. minority leader mitch mcconnell called vice president biden in an effort to jump-start negotiations and there are reports of significant movement, giving some hope that some house republicans will go along with the deal. >> i do believe there are at least two dozen who would vote for the kind of agreement we're hearing about being put together in the senate. >> the vice president and i have worked together on solutions before and i believe we can again. >> there are some indications on how they're getting a little closer to an agreement. when it comes to income tax hikes "the washington post" reports that democrats counter offer sets the threshold at $450,000 a year for taxes to go up. republicans are looking for $550,000. democrats are no longer insisting on raising the estate tax on the very wealthy. they will now agree apparently to an up or down vote. that was key for republicans. still, both sides remain far apart on extending unemployment benefits and on the sequester. of course that is when the steep automatic spending cuts would slash budgets at the pentagon and other govern
president joe biden to help reach an agreement. two men who have served as their party's closers, so to speak, on tough deals before. senate majority leader harry reid says he plans to have a plan up for a vote tomorrow morning. although there are serious differences on both sides. >> we're not going to have any social security cuts at this stage, it just doesn't seem appropriate. i still hold out hope we can get something done but i'm not overly optimistic but i am cautiously optimistic. >> republicans pushed back on claims by democrats that the social security benefit measurement, which is known as the chained cpi and basically would reduce the amount of money that senior citizens get under social security, was part of the republican plan. in any case, that is off the table. senator john mccain posted this on twitter, most of us agree the chained cpi is off the table in these negotiations. president obama continued to put public pressure on republicans during his appearance on "meet the press" today. >> it is very important for republicans in congress to be willing to say, we under
's the list i through out. biden, clinton, bennet, brown, warren and king. who, of course, is an independent but will caucus with the democrats on the republican side we have haley, rubio, ryan, pence, bush and demint. joining me now our end of the year gaggle for most of the show, contributor and managing editor, chris cillizza and perry bacon. stephanie cutter with president obama and kevin madden for governor romney's campaign. we asked all of you -- first of all, hello. >> hello. >> happy new year and all of you to pick. i threw out a dozen and asked you to pick two. again, not going to do the 2016 conversation now but we will in a few minutes. chris -- >> holding off. >> who are the two that jumped out at you thinking 2013? >> so i'm a little nerdy and focused on, you know, down ballot races and picked michael bennet, the colorado senator, the new head of the democratic senatorial campaign committee and tasked with trying to again keep a democratic senate majority, going to be difficult. you have 20 seats up. ten republican seats up. >> wants to be senate majority leader and why he's do
to the upper chamber to find a way out. vice president biden who had remained on the sidelines in this round of talks was even called in to help move things along. but as the saying goes, insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. this morning, insanity continues as the clock ticks down and we have less than 17 hours to go. so joining us now to help us sort out this mess, we have former adviser to the bush administration and the romney campaign, dan senor. dan, will we go over the fiscal cliff? >> i'm afraid we will. i think it will get fixed right after right into the new year but i don't think it will get solved. >> something small, kicking the can down the road? >> correct. >> that same old thing. >> deal with the impasse until we get to the debt ceiling impasse. >> we'll talk about the politics of that coming up. former governor of pennsylvania and nbc news political analyst, ed rendell. ed, are we going over the cliff? >> no, i think we will kick the can down the road emphatically, but we won't go over the cliff. >> wow. director of the earth i
, something does need to cobble together? >> i know our leader are trying. >>> what about vice president biden, you worked with him for 15 years. he and biden worked very well together in the fiscal negotiations last time. should you bring in biden into the conversation here? >> absolutely. i think joe biden is aaron p that knows the senators. perhaps when he would sit down with two of them, and we've got to bring speaker boehner and eric cantor into the mix to see what they can put together on the house side. because they know that we don't want to increase taxes. so i do think everyone coming toe, and it's going to take everyone, the president, the vice president, the house and sena senate. >>> are you saying there's several dozen that did not support plan b, they were not looking at this practically? >>> i agree with them. however, we're at a point where we will not get what we think is right for our economic and country, because we don't control government. so we've got to work within the system we have. i think 250,000 as a threshold is way too low. we can't do that to people who have a l
tonight, joe biden, of course. if there were to be a deal, of course, biden has been deeply involved since yesterday. when mitch mcconnell reached out to him. that's where it stands rielgts now. chris, part of this, we talked a little bit about procedure. the senate can do just about anything it wants if every senator just agreed to do this lickety-split, that is a huge stretch. at that point, all bets are off. mitch mcconnell has got to get on the same page as john boehner on the house 06 representatives. mcconnell is not going to walk the political bank. so a lot of variables here. the plan, all along, was for the senate to pass this thing and therefore, sort of box in the house. john boehner could present it to his gop conference, his conservatives and say, look, this is the only deal we can get. however, as you report it, it's quite clear now that technically, at least, we're going to be going over that cliff. the house, while they say they could call themselves back into session at any moment for all intense and purposes, they're gone until noon tomorrow. house leaders, their aides sa
biden taken the lead in the talks. negotiating with senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. they spoke and narrowed down the differences. among the points with headway, the tax hike threshold, the estate tax and extending unemployment benefits. the remaining sticking point is rumored to be the automatic spending cuts. collectively called the sequester you have been hearing about poised to kick in tomorrow. let's get to nbc white house correspondent kristen welker there for us. what was the point here? the president decided to come out and that bully pulpit can be a powerful weapon. >> reporter: certainly can be. good afternoon to you, t.j. the president using the bully pulpit. this is a part of the pressure on congress but also democrats who might be skeptical of this compromise that is coming to fruition so he came out today with middle class americans standing behind him and made the argument if we do, in fact, go over the cliff, if the steep tax hikes and spending cuts kick in to effect tomorrow, that the average american would see their taxes increase by about $2,000. this is an ar
to be this push towards that. mr. biden has his own commission regarding it, but there is a worry amongst some folks once time passes, once we get past the state of the union, this could fizzle out. knowing how much gun control has talked about -- >> not going to happen. >> why not? why is it going to stay a pertinent part of the conversation in the public going forward? >> i think the public has been shocked and their conscience has been put on the carpet here with this one, and the totality of newtown, aurora, tucson, a number of others, this just bizarre situation out of webster, new york, guy sets a fire, firefighters come and he basically tries to take target practice and picks off a number of them, killing two, injures another two, damaging other people's homes. i guess, you know, out of last week's bizarre press statement, it wasn't a press conference, i guess mr. lapierre would then say firefighters need to have armed guards go with them. i think it just shows that was a completely dumbass idea from the start, the announcement last week. we need to ban assault weapons. we need to ban t
sessions with vice president joe biden. >> so i agree. let's pass the tax relief portion now. let's take what's been agreed to and get moving. we all want to protect taxpayers, and we can get it done now. >> but not everyone is happy about this deal. senator john mccain spoke just before senator mcconnell on the senate floor. >> i guess i have to wonder, and i think the american people have to wonder whether the president really wants this issue resolved or is it to his short-term political benefit for us to go over the cliff? >> aides on the hill are telling nbc news there will be no vote on any deal in the house tonight, so it does look like we'll be going over the cliff, at least temporarily. joining me now from capitol hill, nbc white house correspondent mike viqueira. what's going on right now? >> reporter: furs of all house republican aides will tell you there's nothing to vote on. in that they would be entirely correct. we've been talking about the parameters of the deal and you have correctly outlined them as far as i understand them in terms of the income levels and the alternat
. minority leader mitch mcconnell called the vice president joe biden to get involved and help in the negotiations. lawmakers say they are hopeful they will get a deal today but even if they do the fight won't be over for long. republicans will push for those reforms they gave up this time around early next year during the debt limit debate. back to you. >>> for his part president obama has been trying to turn up the heat on congress applying new pressure on sunday in an interview with david gregory on "meet the press." nbc news white house correspondent has details. >> reporter: on "meet the press," president obama continued his public campaign to pressure congress. >> if congress doesn't act, then everybody's taxes go up, and for the average family that could mean a loss of $2,000 in income and the who economy can slow down. >> reporter: he called an lawmakers to strike a deal or hold a vote on his plan which would raise tax rates on wealthy americans a major sticking points for republicans. >> the way they are behaving is that their only priority is making sure that tax brea
unemployment benefits run out. that's why president obama organized the meeting with vice president biden, speaker boehner, nancy pelosi and senators reid and mcconnell. he urged them to extend jobless benefits. we can deal with cuts to defense and domestic programs later. but let's take care of the middle and working class right now. give them assurance right now. joining me is congressman chief ellison. he's co-chair of the progressive caucus and melissa harris perry, host of the melissa harris perry show here on msnbc. thank you both for coming on the show. >> thank you, al. >> congressman, let me go to you first, this deal comes down to taxing the rich. how can they not realize this is what the country wants? >> i don't think that the republican leadership cares what the country wants. i think they care about what their biggest donors want and their big donors want to reorganize america so that -- because they believe that the rich don't have enough money and the poor have too much. so what we're hearing here is an expression of an et you logical idea that we need american society to
that the president and vice president joe biden are calling the four congressional leaders behind closed closed doors today. >> i am hopeful. i wouldn't say i'm optimistic, but i think confidence has gone down. i think the key is whether the speaker will be the speaker of the entire house and let the matters come before us where there could be a majority of democrats and perhaps a majority of republicans, but let es speak our will and act on our will. that's really one of the keys. i think if the senate bill or what was in it were brought before the house, keeping the middle-class tax cuts, but not those for the upper income, and making sure the alternative minimum tax did not go into effect -- i think it would pass with a coalition. and i think the same could be true of unemployment insurance. 2 million people will lose their federal benefits tomorrow, if we don't have. 2 million people. >> when we snowe the fiscal cliff was imposed as a stopgap on you and all of your colleagues on the hill, are you disappointed that you've had to see it come down to the wire like this? this is basically a self-desi
mcconnell and biden on the phone and the president involved. really to take christmas off facing the fiscal cliff in a week shows how little optimism there is. >> i completely agree. we spent many late nights in the capital and is it doesn't seem like that is going to happen. >> amazing that they washed their hands of it. thank you so much for coming. check out shark week. the best drummer on capitol hill. next, president bush forced to spend christmas in the hospital. after suffering setbacks in his recovery, we will have the latest on his condition. new details about the christmas eve ambush of firefighters. what the gunman's final words were. today's trivia question, before bernie sanders, who was the last self-identified socialist to serve in congress? the first correct answer will get a file wednesday from us. [ male announcer ] how do you measure happiness? by the armful? by the barrelful? the carful? how the bowlful? campbell's soups give you nutrition, energy, and can help you keep a healthy weight. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. >> still being trea
be on the panel that vice president biden will be leading? >> he's a former member of congress, he has sway with people on capitol hill, he's large live seen as somebody who is going to run for governor in his home state of arkansas going forward, he's still an active political figure, former members of congress tend to get more things done here in washington than some other folks but we'll see. >> they don't have to be re-elected. >> that's right. they're going to need a lot of power going forward to get lngs through. >> we heard this on friday, we heard it on sunday from lapierre. he was using the terms "good guys" fairly frequently. does that positive association he's making with police officers, of those who are trained using gun, using the terms "good guys" is that what we expect to hear for all those who are opponents of gun legislation going forward? >> i think so. i think that will be part of the conversation. but, you know, this will be a really difficult battle on capitol hill, especially in the house but also in the senate. we see a lot of democrats up nor reelection in two years
to an agreement in the final days of the year? we're going to ask vice president biden's former chief economist jared bernstein. first, though, the economy held hostage in the words of one ceo. >> my name is terry, owner, president and ceo of a salon in princeton, new jersey. i've owned the company for two years, it's been here for about 30-plus years. we're pretty scared of the fiscal cliff for many reasons. one of which is four of my employees, there's so much uncertainty for them. my other biggest fear is not being able to sustain the business and grow it, and offer employment opportunities for others, as well as for us, how we're going to plan for the future. we have three weeks for a decision. let's make that decision. stop taking sides, and come together, let's have a strong america that we all know and need again. [ male announcer ] this december, remember -- what starts with adding a friend... ♪ ...could end with adding a close friend. the lexus december to remember sales event is on. this is the pursuit of perfection. ♪ [ male announcer ] this is karen and jeremiah. they don't know
at a deadline at inauguration. in joe biden's language, will the fever break by the time the president is sworn in again for his second term? because if it doesn't, then whatever you see in the first week of trading now is going to be nothing, nothing compared to how global markets will react come the end of january. >> there's obviously a new congress coming in. does the composition in the new congress, can anybody figure out what happens there? >> well, i mean, numerically, it's more favorable to democrats, right? the house will still be controlled by john boehner. so you still have that divided congress. but the calculation is not, you know, a numerical one. it's the idea that if they go home -- first if they go home for christmas break, they'd feel the pressure, but it doesn't seem like that's coming. if they go over the cliff and they do mess with the debt ceiling, that people are going to get freaked and spooked because you'll start hearing stories about social security recipients facing the prospect of smaller checks from the government, unemployment insurance completely dried up, payrol
. so went to the front of the airplane to senator obama and senator biden had been newly selected as his running mate. he said i think i am reasonably smart. it took me like six months to figure out how to be a presidential candidate, how to deal with the stop light, how to deal with the national politics. she may be the smartest politician ever and she may be able to come out of alaska to handle all of this. but i will give her three weeks. three weeks to the day, she did her interview with katie couric, which effectively ended it for her. [laughter] i thought that they might make a conservative choice, someone who had at least a taste of the national stage or, which was more of a consensus in the political committee, that he might take rob portman from ohio because ohio is so important. portman was a guy who is a center-right conservative, who might be more broad. i think barack was surprised by the jurors. what do you think for men could have changed -- surprised by the choice. >> do you think portman could have changed the outcome? >> i don't know. there is a lot of reflection
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